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of Charles. It was possibly from one of these that Jeanne derived her theocratic ideas.[340] [Footnote 339: _Trial_, vol. ii, pp. 392, 393, 458, 459.] [Footnote 340: As for Nicolas de Vouthon, priest of the Abbey of Cheminon, what is stated concerning him in the evidence of the 2nd and 3rd November, 1476, seems improbable. _Trial_, vol. v, p. 252. E. de Bouteiller and G. de Braux, _Nouvelles recherches sur la famille de Jeanne d'Arc_, pp. xviii _et seq._, 9.] While she was speaking to Sire Robert there was present, and not by chance merely, a certain knight of Lorraine, Bertrand de Poulengy, who possessed lands near Gondrecourt and held an office in the provostship of Vaucouleurs.[341] He was then about thirty-six years of age. He was a man who associated with churchmen; at least he was familiar with the manner of speech of devout persons.[342] Perhaps he now saw Jeanne for the first time; but he must certainly have heard of her; and he knew her to be good and pious. Twelve years before he had frequently visited Domremy; he knew the country well; he had sat beneath _l'Arbre des Dames_, and had been several times to the house of Jacques d'Arc and Romee, whom he held to be good honest farmer folk.[343] [Footnote 341: _Trial_, vol. ii, p. 475. Servais, in _Memoires de la Societe des Lettres, Sciences et Arts de Bar-le-Duc_, vol. vi, p. 139. E. de Bouteiller and G. de Braux, _Nouvelles recherches_, p. xxviii. S. Luce, _Jeanne d'Arc a Domremy_, proofs and illustrations xcv, p. 143 and note 3. De Beaucourt, _Histoire de Charles VII_, vol. ii, p. 204.] [Footnote 342: This appears from the manner in which he reports Jeanne's words.] [Footnote 343: _Trial_, vol. ii, pp. 451, 458.] It may be that Bertrand de Poulengy was struck by the damsel's speech and bearing; it is more likely that the knight was in touch with certain ecclesiastics unknown to us, who were instructing the peasant seeress with an eye to rendering her better able to serve the realm of France and the Church. However that may be, in Bertrand she had a friend who was to be her strong support in the future. For the nonce, however, if our information be correct, he did nothing and spoke not a word. Perhaps he judged it best to wait until the commander of the town should be ready to grant a more favourable hearing to the saint's request. Sire Robert understood nothing of all this; one point only appeared plain to him, that Jeanne would make a fine ca
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