enry VIII., who deceased A.D. 1509. These shields are figured in the
_Glossary of Heraldry_, pp. 285, 286.

2. Is it, heraldically speaking, wrong to inscribe the motto upon a circle
(not a garter) or ribbon round the shield? So says the _Glossary_, p. 227.
If wrong, on what principle?

3. Was it ever the custom in this country, as on the Continent to this day,
for ecclesiastics to bear their arms in a circular or oval panel?--the
martial form of the shield being considered inconsistent with their
spiritual character. If so, when did the custom commence, and where may
instances be seen either on monuments or in illustrated works?

CEYREP.

_John's Spoils from Peterborough and Crowland._--Clement Spelman, in his
Preface to the reader, with which he introduces his father's treatise _De
non temerandis Ecclesiis_, says (edit. Oxford, 1841, p.45.):

"I cannot omit the sacrilege and punishment of King John, who in the
seventeenth year of his reign, among other churches, rifled the abbeys
of {572} Peterborough and Croyland, and after attempts to carry his
sacrilegious wealth from Lynn to Lincoln; but, passing the Washes, the
earth in the midst of the waters opens her mouth (as for Korah and his
company), and at once swallows up both carts, carriage, and horses, all
his treasure, all his regalities, all his church spoil, and all the
church spoilers; not one escapes to bring the king word," &c.

Is the precise spot known where this catastrophe occurred, or have any
relics been since recovered to give evidence of the fact?

J. SANSOM.

_"Elementa sex," &c._--Perhaps one of your readers, given to such trifles,
will hazard a guess at the solution, if not at the author, of the
subjoined:

"Elementa sex me proferent totam tibi;
Totam hanc, lucernis si tepent fungi, vides,
Accisa senibus suppetit saltantibus,
Levetur, armis adfremunt Horatii;
Facienda res est omnibus, si fit minor,
Es, quod relinquis deinde, si subtraxeris;
Si rite tandem quaeritas originem,
Ad sibilum, vix ad sonum, reverteris."

EFFIGY.

_Jack and Gill--Sir Hubbard de Hoy._--Having recently amused myself by a
dive into old Tusser's _Husbandrie_, the following passages suggested
themselves as fitting _Queries_ for your pages:

_Jack and Gill._--

"Let Jack nor Gill
Fetch corn at will."

Can the "Jack and Gill" of our nursery tales be traced to an earlier date
than Tusser's time?

_Hobble de Hoy.