ording to Madison:

Mr. King, being much opposed to fixing numbers as the rule of
representation, was particularly so on account of the blacks. He
thought the admission of them along with Whites at all, would
excite great discontents among the States having no slaves. He
had never said as to any particular point that he would in no
event acquiesce in & support it; but he wd. say that if in any
case such a declaration was to be made by him, it would be in
this. He remarked that in the (temporary) allotment of
Representatives made by the Committee, the Southern States had
received more than the number of their white & three fifths of
their black inhabitants entitled them to.

Mr. Sherman. S. Carola. had not more beyond her proportion than
N. York & N. Hampshire, nor either of them more than was
necessary in order to avoid fractions or reducing them below
their proportion. Georgia had more; but the rapid growth of that
State seemed to justify it. In general the allotment might not be
just, but considering all circumstances, he was satisfied with
it.

Mr. Ghorum supported the propriety of establishing numbers as the
rule. He said that in Massts. estimates had been taken in the
different towns, and that persons had been curious enough to
compare these estimates with the respective numbers of people;
and it had been found even including Boston, that the most exact
proportion prevailed between numbers and property. He was aware
that there might be some weight in what had fallen from his
colleague, as to the umbrage which might be taken by the people
of the Eastern States. But he recollected that when the
proposition of Congs for changing the 8th art. of Confedn. was
before the Legislature of Massts. the only difficulty then was to
satisfy them that the negroes ought not to have been counted
equally with whites instead of being counted in the ratio of
three fifths only.

Mr. Wilson did not well see on what principle the admission of
blacks in the proportion of three fifths could be explained. Are
they admitted as Citizens? Then why are they not admitted on an
equality with White Citizens? Are they admitted as property, then
why is not other property admitted into the computation? These
were difficulties however which he thought must be