ule as in the
1st. branch.)
On this question for making the ratio of representation the same
in the 2d. as in the 1st. branch (it passed in the affirmative:)
Massts. ay. Cont. no. N. Y. no. N. J. no. Pa. ay. Del. no. Md.
no. Va. ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay. (Ayes--6; noes--5.)[536]
On the same day
Mr. Wilson was of opinion, and therefore moved, _that the mode of
representation of each of the states ought to be from the number
of its free inhabitants, and of every other description three
fifths to one free inhabitant_. He supposed that the impost will
not be the only revenue--the post office he supposes would be
another substantial source of revenue. He observed further, that
this mode had already received the approbation of eleven states
in their acquiescence to the quota made by congress. He admitted
that this resolve would require further restrictions, for where
numbers determined the representation a census at different
periods of 5, 7 or 10 years, ought to be taken.
Mr. Gerry. The idea of property ought not to be the rule of
representation. Blacks are property, and are used to the
southward as horses and cattle to the northward; and why should
their representation be increased to the southward on account of
the number of slaves, than horses or oxen to the north?
Mr. Madison was of opinion at present, to fix the standard of
representation, and let the detail be the business of a
sub-committee.
Mr. Rutledge's motion was postponed.[537]
Discussing whether the apportionment should be according to taxation
or numbers, Wilson considered
Either Rule good--by Numbers best to ascertain the Right of
Representn. this agreeably to the Sentiments of 11 States--Impost
alone will not be sufficient to answer the national
Exigencies--Revenues arising from Postage--The present Quota not
a lasting Rule--People to be numbered at fixed Periods--A Rule
arising from Property and Numbers--
Gerry. Rule of Taxation not the Rule of Representation--4 might
then have more Voices than ten--Slaves not to be put upon the
Footing of freemen--Freemen of Massts. not to be put upon a
Footing with the Slaves of other States--Horses and Cattle ought
to have the Right of Representn. Negroes--Whites--[538]
On the thirteenth of June Randolph submitted a
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