ut a survey of the ground?

_A._ Certainly.

_Q._ Are you aware, that in making a plan of that sort, there are
various other plans previously made, before it comes into that state?

_A._ No doubt, there must be.

_Q._ Can you take upon you, from that, and from your understanding of
the manner in which such plans are made, to say what would be a fair
reasonable compensation for the trouble bestowed?

_A._ Mr. Cochrane Johnstone, whom I saw upon the premises, made a
representation to me----

_Mr. Gurney._ We cannot hear that.

_Mr. Brougham._ From your own knowledge of the subject, and the ground,
what should you take to be a reasonable compensation?

_A._ It is so governed by the trouble attending it, that I cannot say,
with any precision; I should judge, from the calculation of the trouble
that must attend it, that a compensation of from two to three hundred
pounds, might not be excessive.

_---- M'Guire sworn._

_Examined by Mr. Park_.

_Q._ Are you the wife of the person who has just been here now?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Did you know Mr. De Berenger, when he lived at Chelsea?

_A._ No.

_Q._ Did you know Smith, his servant?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Did your husband on any day, and if so, on what day, mention to you
his having seen Mr. De Berenger, Smith's master?

_A._ Yes, he did on the 20th February, about ten o'clock at night.

_Q._ When he came home?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ How do you happen to know it was the 20th of February, more than
the 13th or the 6th?

_A._ It was the Sunday before Shrove-tuesday.

_Q._ What led you to recollect it so particularly?

_A._ It was my child's birth-day.

_Q._ Do you mean that Shrove-tuesday was your child's birth-day, or that
Sunday?

_A._ The Sunday; the first child I ever had in my life.

_Q._ On that day he told you he had seen Mr. De Berenger at his master's
yard?

_A._ Yes, he did.

_Lord Ellenborough._ Did he tell you at what o'clock he saw him?

_A._ Yes; at about a quarter past six.

_Q._ Did he tell you that he thought it was shocking he should be out of
the Rules?

_A._ Yes, he did; that he wondered whether he had got his liberty or
not.

_Q._ Did he say it was shocking he should be out of the Rules?

_A._ I cannot particularly say, whether he said it was shocking or not.

_Q._ Had you known these Smiths long?

_A._ About three years and seven months.

_Q._ You are in the habits of visiting them sometimes?

_A._ Smith came b