an hour; I cannot exactly say; it
might be an hour, or it might be less.

_Q._ Was it thereabouts, as nearly as you can remember?

_A._ Yes; it was, as nearly as I can remember.

_Q._ You are sure it was somewhere thereabouts?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Was he a visitor of Mr. Donithorne's, or did he come on business?

_A._ I have seen him frequently talking to Mr. Donithorne, about
drawings, designs of furniture, and things of that sort.

_Q._ What is Donithorne?

_A._ He is a cabinet maker.

_Q._ You had seen him before that time?

_A._ Yes; Mr. Donithorne has shewn him to me.

_Lord Ellenborough._ What are you yourself?

_A._ A hat manufacturer by trade.

_Q._ You have been out of business since that time?

_A._ Yes, I have; not entirely out of business; but I have not a house
at the present moment; I went there to reside, till I saw a house that
would suit my purpose.

_Q._ He was talking with Mr. Donithorne?

_A._ Yes, he was.

_Mr. Richardson._ Was any body else present?

_A._ Yes; there was my wife, Mr. Donithorne and Mrs. Donithorne; we were
in the parlour in the evening, when he came.

_Q._ Did he sit down?

_A._ He said that he would not come into the parlour to disturb the
company; Mr. Donithorne went to the back part of the house with him,
into the garden.

_Q._ Did he come into the parlour?

_A._ Yes, he did just come into the parlour; but he said he would not
disturb the company.

_Q._ Did he afterwards come in?

_A._ I do not know whether he came in afterwards or not.

_Q._ But you saw him there?

_A._ I saw him in the house.

_Q._ You are well acquainted with his person?

_A._ Yes; I had seen him repeatedly before that.

_Q._ You did not see him after that?

_A._ No, I did not.

_Cross-examined by Mr. Gurney._

_Q._ Do you remember being struck with any alteration in his appearance
that night?

_A._ No.

_Q._ How long before that time had he left off wearing the large
whiskers he used to have?

_A._ I cannot say.

_Q._ He had not them on that night?

_A._ I cannot say that I saw any alteration.

_Q._ He had no whiskers on that night?

_A._ No.

_Q._ He had never been used to wear whiskers?

_A._ That I cannot say.

_Q._ You knew him well, and had seen him often?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ And you mean to say, you do not remember whether he wore whiskers
on not?

_A._ He might or might not, I do not look so particularly into a
gentleman's face, as to see