e coming from, at a quarter past six?

_A._ He came up from the water-side; I cannot tell which way he came to
the stable-yard gateway.

_Q._ And he seemed in a hurry to get home?

_A._ He did.

_Q._ How far is it from Asylum Place to Chelsea?

_A._ It is two miles from the bottom of our street to Buckingham-gate,
and it is a mile from that to the middle arch of Westminster-bridge; I
cannot tell how far it is from that to the Asylum.

_Q._ You did not see where he came from?

_A._ No.

_Q._ But he was in a hurry to get home?

_A._ Yes.

_Mr. Park._ It is three miles and a half, or four miles, my Lord.

_A Juryman._ Was it day-light or dark, when you saw him?

_A._ It was between the two lights; it was not very clear at that time.

_Mr. Park._ I will call this woman, and will put a question to her; I
had not intended it, conceiving that what he said to his wife, could not
be evidence.

_Lord Ellenborough._ You will call her, or not, as you see fit; I do not
desire to have more persons called than is necessary.

_Mr. Park._ I must call her, as your Lordship has asked the question,
what he told her?

_Mr. Brougham._ If your Lordship will permit us, we will examine Hopper
now; he is extremely ill, I understand.

_Lord Ellenborough._ If you please.

_Mr. Thomas Hopper sworn._

_Examined by Mr. Brougham_.

_Q._ What are you?

_A._ An architect.

_Q._ Do you know Mr. Cochrane Johnstone's premises at Allsop's
buildings?

_A._ I saw them two nights ago.

_Q._ You saw a piece of ground that he possesses there?

_A._ I did.

_Q._ Will you look at that plan, which is lying there, for the laying
out of the ground? (_the witness looked at it._)

_A._ These plans I saw at the time.

_Lord Ellenborough._ That is two nights ago?

_A._ Yes, it is.

_Mr. Brougham._ Did you at the same time see the prospectus of the plan
for laying out the place?

_A._ This, I believe, is a copy of it.

_Q._ What should you think is a reasonable compensation to the person
who arranged that plan, and made that drawing, and the others connected
with that plan, and the prospectus?

_A._ That it would be almost impossible for me to tell; that must be
governed by the trouble that was attendant upon it, and of course of
that I cannot be a judge.

_Lord Ellenborough._ It is a very well drawn plan?

_A._ Certainly it is.

_Mr. Brougham._ Are you aware, that a plan of that kind cannot be made
out, witho