that use.

_Q._ Something upon the plan of the old Ranelagh?

_A._ Something upon an improved plan of Mr. De Berenger's.

_Q._ You have seen the plan you say, which Mr. De Berenger drew for Mr.
Cochrane Johnstone?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ How long ago is that?

_A._ I cannot exactly say how long ago it was.

_Q._ Was it before this conversation a good while?

_A._ Before this conversation; when I was in the habit of calling upon
him.

_Q._ About the close of the last year probably?

_A._ About that time, I cannot exactly say.

_Q._ Was it not a very beautiful plan that he had drawn for this
Ranelagh?

_A._ It was.

_Q._ It required, from the nature of it, a considerable deal of time and
labour?

_A._ It did certainly.

_Q._ Do you know whether Mr. De Berenger was very much employed in plans
of that kind for the Royal Family and others?

_A._ He was.

_Lord Ellenborough._ If you see any tendency to the advantage of your
client, I will not interrupt you, but at present this seems to have no
bearing.

_Mr. Park._ I assure your Lordship, and I know I shall have credit for
believing what I state, I would not at this hour of the night pursue it
if it was not important, but I feel it necessary when it is stated that
there has been a wonderful intimacy, from which, conspiracy is sought to
be inferred.

_Lord Ellenborough._ I will not ask you to go into your reasons, if you
only say you think it material.

_Mr. Park._ As far as you have seen Mr. De Berenger, for the length of
time you have described, do you not believe him to be a man of honor and
integrity?

_A._ I certainly do from every thing I have seen; I saw nothing but the
most perfect gentleman during the time I lodged under the same roof.

_William Carling sworn._

_Examined by Mr. Adolphus._

_Q._ Whose servant are you?

_A._ The Honorable Basil Cochrane's.

_Q._ Are you in his service still?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Did Mr. Cochrane Johnstone and my Lord Cochrane visit at your
master's house?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Have you ever seen them there in company with Captain De Berenger?

_A._ Yes; Baron De Berenger is the name I have given in.

_Q._ The gentleman who sits there now?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Did he come there once, or oftener, within your memory?

_A._ Twice.

_Q._ Who brought him?

_A._ I do not know that any body brought him in particular, he came to
dine there as a visitor.

_Q._ With whom?

_A._ Not with any body i