same as his coming from New Orleans I
took a trip down to Birmingham I thought sure he was going to stop at
Birmingham. Instead of that he changed his way and he went way to
Macon, Georgia. That is the way he deceived me half a dozen times after
it was advertised that I could meet him there and there.

Q. What day did you get to Chicago?

A. Chicago. I arrived if I ain't mistaken, now I might not tell the
truth but I guess it, I think it was Friday.

Q. Friday morning?

A. Friday dinner time, if I ain't mistaken.

Q. Now what did you go over to the La Salle Hotel where Col.
Roosevelt----

A. I was over to the La Salle, but not in the hotel.

Q. You didn't go inside of the hotel?

A. No, sir.

Q. Where did you stand?

A. On the street, the same as here, on the street.

Q. In front of the entrance?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Waiting to hear whether he was coming out?

A. No, I didn't wait for him to come out because he got there in the
morning--I think he did, in the morning, yes, at ten o'clock he got
there. I seen him go in and I never seen him go out.

Q. You saw him go out or go in at ten o'clock Saturday morning?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Where were you standing?

A. On the street with the rest of the crowd.

Q. Did you try to get your revolver there?

A. No, sir.

Q. What prevented you from drawing?

A. Well, I thought it is his reception that might have a bad feeling on
the city of Chicago, giving him a reception like that; I thought I
might have plenty of chance to get at him later on if it wouldn't be
just at the reception.

Q. Let me understand you what prevented you from drawing.

A. I says because it was the reception---- There was so many people
receiving him and I suppose the city of Chicago would like to give him
a decent respectable reception. It would look awful bad if at the
reception he would have got shot down, I says to myself that wouldn't
go, I might get a better chance.

Q. You knew there was a death penalty in Illinois?

A. No, sir; I never knew anything like that.

Q. How near were you to him when he passed you that morning at the La
Salle?

A. How near? It was on the other side of the street.

Q. Is that the nearest you got to him?

A. Yes.

Mr. Zabel:

Did you carry your revolver at that time in your pocket?

A. No.

Q. You had one that you----

A. In here (indicating hip pocket).

Q. Where did you go--to the Coliseum---- Why did you go to the Coliseum
if you