following around and trying to
meet Theodore Roosevelt?

A. Well, because I have been reading history and following up history
and I have seen that this man Roosevelt is trying to break one of the
old established traditions of the country, calling it a third termer,
which he has no right to; he can create a third party and create all
the offices, but to nominate himself it was absolutely out of the way
and I think today that it is absolutely unnecessary to establish now
and have the third tradition to exist and not to be violated by
anybody.

Q. Well, what did you have in mind to do when you went around in these
different places?

A. I had in mind to meet him and he escaped me every time; he escaped
me in Atlanta and Chattanooga.

Q. He escaped what?

A. He has not come the way I expected, he did not come out the way I
expected; if he goes in a hall today and speaks in a hall and he come
in this way or that way he goes out a different way and the man got
away.

Q. What did he escape from?

A. From the places I wanted to meet him?

Q. Why did you want to meet him?

A. Because I wanted to put him out of the way. A man that wants a third
term has no right to live.

Q. That is, you wanted to kill him?

A. I did.

Q. Have you any other reason in wanting to kill him?

A. I have.

Q. What is that?

A. I had a dream several years ago that Mr. McKinley appeared to me and
he told me that Mr. Roosevelt is practically his real murderer and not
this here Czolgosz, or whatever his name was, Mr. Roosevelt is
practically the man that has been the real murderer of President
McKinley in order to get the presidency of the United States, because
the way things were that time he was not supposed to be a president;
all the leaders did not want him, that's the reason they give him the
vice-presidency, which is political suicide; and that's what I am sore
about, to think Mr. McKinley appeared to me in a dream and said, "this
is my murderer and nobody else."

Q. Did you speak with anybody in New York about this before you left?

A. No, sir.

Q. You made your mind up to this all yourself?

A. Yes, because I am alone, although I own property in New York.

Q. What property?

A. I own property in four hundred thirty-three East Eighty-first
street.

Q. What does it consist of?

A. It consists of an apartment house with ten tenants; it's estimated
at twenty-five thousand dollars.

Q. Did you attend any political me