Overy two gold
pieces, which afterwards proved to be French pieces, I had them in my
hand.

_Q._ Do you know the name of them?

_A._ I cannot say that I do; there was ten francs or something on them.

_Q._ Did you see enough of the person with whom you conversed in the
chaise to think that you should know him again?

_A._ I am positive I should.

_Q._ Look round and see whether you see him here?

_The Witness looked round._

_A._ I cannot see him; he is not round here; I cannot say that I am
positive.

_Q._ You do not see him?

_A._ No I cannot say that I do.

_Q._ Look from here to the end of the row?

_A._ No I cannot say that I am positive.

_Q._ Do you know the boys who drove the Baron away?

_A._ Yes, Shilling and ----.

_Mr. Gurney._ Before Shilling comes in, and when what I say is not
heard by him, I must say that the person to be identified should hold
his head so as to be seen.

_Mr. Park._ And so he did. I desired Mr. De Berenger to hold his head
gently up, and he did it immediately.

_Lord Ellenborough._ The questions might go much nearer; the witnesses
might be asked if that be the person: it is done always at the Old
Bailey in cases of life and death, where the prisoner stands in a
conspicuous situation--it is less strong in that case; but to be sure
when it is proved in the way it has been, it can be of very little
consequence.

_Thomas Shilling sworn._

_Examined by Mr. Adolphus._

_Q._ You are a chaise-driver at Dartford?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Do you remember on a particular day taking up a gentleman who came
in a chaise and four to Dartford?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ What day was that?

_A._ I do not rightly know the day, but I believe it was on the 21st of
February.

_Q._ What day of the week?

_A._ On a Monday.

_Q._ Had you a pair of horses?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ Upon your ride to London, did the gentleman say any thing to you?

_A._ Yes, he discoursed with me a good deal.

_Q._ Who first spoke to him in your hearing?

_A._ The first man that spoke to him in my hearing that I took any
notice of, was the waiter.

_Q._ The waiter at your inn at Dartford?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ What was the sign of your house?

_A._ The Granby at Dartford.

_Q._ What passed between him and the waiter?

_A._ The waiter asked him whether he had brought any good news; the
gentleman said, yes, it was all over; Bonaparte was dead; he said he was
torn in a thousand pieces; and