t were worse than
Le Caron. I said that the man who gave Le Caron his credentials to
go into the convention was a greater scoundrel than ever Le Caron
could pretend to be. I said I had found out that Le Caron's camp
did not exist in two years, did not have a meeting in two years,
that the junior guardian given in the directory had not been in the
town of Braidwood for over two years. I stated they must have known
that such a camp did not exist only on paper. That was about the
substance of my remarks."

A roar of applause, which the bailiffs vainly endeavored to suppress,
came from the audience, as McGarry concluded.

"Did John F. Beggs make a speech in reply to yours" asked the
State's Attorney.

"Yes" was the reply. "Beggs said that the visiting members should
not be coming in there violating the hospitality of that camp, and
that it would have to be stopped. He said that it was not right;
that it was cowardly. I wanted to interrupt him, but the presiding
officer, the chairman at the time, would not let me. I wanted to
interrupt him when he used the word cowardly. He said they came in
there attacking Alexander Sullivan, and it was cowardly to attack
any one behind his back. Why did they not say so to his face if
they had anything to say? He said Alexander Sullivan had strong
friends in the camp, and he slapped his breast, and said, "I am one
of them." That was about all that passed. I wanted to get the floor
to reply to him, and I did get the floor afterward. I said the
gentleman had said it was cowardly. I wanted him to understand that
I was no coward; that I would tell Alexander Sullivan, either there
or anywhere else, what my opinion of him was, and every man who
knew me knew what that was. I said, 'Why did you mention Alexander
Sullivan's name? I have not mentioned it. I have not heard it
mentioned here till the senior guardian of this camp mentioned it
here.' I stated and I repeated that the man who gave Le Caron his
credentials was a greater scoundrel than ever Le Caron pretended to
be. That was all I said, and I should not have mentioned his name
only it was brought out. I should say, that when Beggs said that
Alexander Sullivan had stout friends in this camp and that he was
one of them, he also said that he (Beggs) was for union and unity