winn interrupted weakly.

"If he was so broke, how do you account for his carrying around an
expensive camera and always having plenty of film with which to
photograph American naval and military spots?"

"I don't know. Maybe he carried the camera around to hock in case he
went broke."

The absurdity of the excuse was so patent that I laughed. Schwinn
smiled a little.

"All right. What do you know about a man named Maeder?"

Again that long, drawn-out "M-m-m-m." A long pause and Schwinn said,
"Maeder is an American citizen, I believe."

"Yes; you are, too. But what's his business in this country?"

"I don't know," Schwinn said helplessly. "I really don't know."

"You know nothing about his activities or observations of American
naval and military bases? Do you usually take in members without
knowing anything about them?"

"Sometimes we do and sometimes we do not--"

"But orders were sent from Germany to make this an American
organization--"

Schwinn nodded without admitting it verbally.

"And since you throw out all Germans who are not American citizens,
you check with the Consul General in New York as to whether they are
fit--"

"We have nothing to do with the Consul General--"

"What happened to Willi Sachse who used to be a member here?"

"He is supposed to have gone back to Germany."

"Have you heard from him from Germany?"

"No; I haven't heard since he left."

"You received a letter recently from him from San Francisco where he
is watching foreign vessels--"

"Oh," said Schwinn, raising his hands in a helpless gesture, "I know
you have spies in my organization."

We talked a little longer--of visits he made to Nazi agents in the
Middle West and in New York, of secret conferences with propagandists
and spies. But he refused to do any more than shrug his shoulders at
all new questions.

"I have said too much already," he said.

FOOTNOTES:

[10] Gissibl left for Stuttgart, Germany, and leadership was taken over
by his brother, Peter.

[11] Before McFadden died, I published evidence that while he was a
member of Congress he worked with Nazi agents in this country.

[12] As this book went to press, the U.S. Government had just begun
action to revoke Schwinn's citizenship, claiming that he had obtained it
by making false statements.

[13] Congressman Samuel Dickstein. The McCormick Congressional Committee
was frequently referred to as the "Dickstein Committee" because
Dickstein had in