, definitely, is the Me?

Y.M. I think it must consist of just those two parts--the body and the
mind.

O.M. You think so? If you say "I believe the world is round," who is the
"I" that is speaking?

Y.M. The mind.

O.M. If you say "I grieve for the loss of my father," who is the "I"?

Y.M. The mind.

O.M. Is the mind exercising an intellectual function when it examines
and accepts the evidence that the world is round?

Y.M. Yes.

O.M. Is it exercising an intellectual function when it grieves for the
loss of your father?

Y.M. That is not cerebration, brain-work, it is a matter of FEELING.

O.M. Then its source is not in your mind, but in your MORAL territory?

Y.M. I have to grant it.

O.M. Is your mind a part of your PHYSICAL equipment?

Y.M. No. It is independent of it; it is spiritual.

O.M. Being spiritual, it cannot be affected by physical influences?

Y.M. No.

O.M. Does the mind remain sober with the body is drunk?

Y.M. Well--no.

O.M. There IS a physical effect present, then?

Y.M. It looks like it.

O.M. A cracked skull has resulted in a crazy mind. Why should it happen
if the mind is spiritual, and INDEPENDENT of physical influences?

Y.M. Well--I don't know.

O.M. When you have a pain in your foot, how do you know it?

Y.M. I feel it.

O.M. But you do not feel it until a nerve reports the hurt to the brain.
Yet the brain is the seat of the mind, is it not?

Y.M. I think so.

O.M. But isn't spiritual enough to learn what is happening in the
outskirts without the help of the PHYSICAL messenger? You perceive that
the question of who or what the Me is, is not a simple one at all. You
say "I admire the rainbow," and "I believe the world is round," and in
these cases we find that the Me is not speaking, but only the MENTAL
part. You say, "I grieve," and again the Me is not all speaking, but
only the MORAL part. You say the mind is wholly spiritual; then you say
"I have a pain" and find that this time the Me is mental AND spiritual
combined. We all use the "I" in this indeterminate fashion, there is no
help for it. We imagine a Master and King over what you call The Whole
Thing, and we speak of him as "I," but when we try to define him we
find we cannot do it. The intellect and the feelings can act quite
INDEPENDENTLY of each other; we recognize that, and we look around for
a Ruler who is master over both, and can serve as a DEFINITE AND
INDISPUTABLE "I," and enable us to know wh