could give you these details. We can only get impressions from the
mutterings of those in the country who say, `What is the use of coming
here? all the good land is gobbled up by the companies.' One would be
glad to have the matter explained. Farmers with 500 pounds capital, if
they could get land cheap in Rhodesia, might be tempted to settle there,
but if the land is in the hands of companies, those companies will want
to make big profits. The Chartered Company are under the necessity of
selling land to get money. The greater the run of farmers to Rhodesia
the higher would be the prices of land. The Chartered Company, we can
see, have been liberal enough to miners, but I doubt whether they have
been so liberal to the farmer class."

"From your experience of the conditions in England, do you think people
at home would respond readily to an effort by Mr Rhodes and the
Rhodesian Government to attract them to Rhodesia?"

"Yes, I do, because South Africa is as pleasant a place to live in as
any part of the world that I have visited. It is certainly more
pleasant than the cold north of Canada. America was very good, but it
is not superior to South Africa. The United States Government, however,
had a very large reserve of land which they could afford to give at 2.5
dollars an acre, and they gave 160 acres of land to anyone who would
promise to settle there for five years and build houses and improve the
land. That is what the Chartered Company should do. If you have an
estate, you must invest a portion of your capital in seed and in
machines for cultivating the land; if you regard a State as a farm, the
best seed you can put into it is a farming population. Settlers who
develop the soil contribute as much wealth to the State as those who dig
for minerals. Perfected communication also adds value to every acre. I
had at one time to explain why I did not consider the land of the Congo
State worth a two-shilling piece, because it was impossible to reach it,
but, I said, if you make it accessible to me it is worth so much an
acre. If you leave me isolated in the heart of the Congo, I throw away
my life and the two-shilling piece."

"Is there in Rhodesia plenty of land beyond what is required for the
Matabele and the Mashonas?"

WHAT THE CHARTERED COMPANY SHOULD DO.

"Well," replied Mr Stanley, "the natives have always got the slopes of
the country. It is, of course, a white man's land, because the white
man ha