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anent Chairman. Convention went into Committee of the Whole. It was reported that Father Dorney could not come because he had trouble with the Bishop, and that Alexander Sullivan was absent because British detectives were shadowing him. I held that no member of the executive could sit as a delegate; quoted the constitution; no exception to my doing so; the fact was as stated by me. The last district called was Q. For R. we were directed to apply to the Secretary. District S. was named. I objected to this as no mention had been made of it in our report. I asked "Where is it?" I was answered, "Australia." Its representatives here are Maroney and Betts. They said they represented Boland and Sullivan. I asked if there was any organization in Australia? I was answered there is one in contemplation. The Secretary said Betts and Maroney were there by order of the executive and by order of a cablegram sent to Sullivan and Boland. Sullivan is said to be not a member of the order and Boland represents New York. They had earlier said that Sullivan was shadowed by detectives. I then showed how the cablegram had come from England. Letters had been left with the President by Boland. Districts H. and B. declared they would leave the convention. We refused to take any part. Did not return. Motion to expel seceding members carried by a vote of 20 to 5. Q.--By Mr. Boland--The conversations were in the presence of Kerwin, were they not? A.--Yes, many of them. Q.--Did the matter come up in relation to your treatment at Chicago? Some of it took place before you were elected? A.--Yes. At district meeting of S. J. Kerwin was present as the representative of F. C. The district requested me to accept. Had no conversation with you until months after. Q.--By Mr. Feeley--Did you present any objection at district convention as to your statement as to district? A.--No. Because I knew nothing of any other district. Q.--Did you present any evidence, other than your statement, in relation to any of the acts mentioned? A.--No. Because I was not aware of any man elected. Q.--Do you recollect that a vote was taken in regard to District A.? A.--Yes; if you have any doubt I can refer you to mem. Q.--Do you recollect my opposing the representation
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